Suzanne Proksa:
Welcome to the Suzanne show. With me, Suzanne Proxa, h r and business strategist, former featured etsy seller, plant addict, concert lover, gardener, landscaper in training, and humans straight up obsessed with helping others and cheering on women. Here we talk a little business, personal development, women's health, and a whole lot about things that matter. Help people and give them joy. Grab your coffee or your wine, break out one of your hundreds of notebooks, light that soy candle and let's dive in. Welcome and back to the show, everybody. Today we are going to be talking about finding some clarity from chaos. You heard me right. So this is going to be a really interesting conversation with Chelsea Rosner. As a business Chaos strategist and clarity specialist and certified Master Life and Performance Push Coach, chelsea Rosner works with ambitious women to help them fast track success based off their unique experiences and individuality. As the founder of Badasses unite in programs like the Entrepreneur Elevator and Crack your Own Wellness code. Chelsea uses her unique skills and multiple degrees to help ambitious women entrepreneurs identify how to showcase their most authentic self in their online presence. Bring light to what's holding them back on both micro and macro levels, and show. Them how to navigate from where you are in business currently to leveling up their alignment and letting a successful business be a byproduct of a badass life. Kelsey currently lives in Georgia with her husband, two kids, and two giant dogs and is usually daydreaming about some kind of DIY project or where the family's fixed trip or vacate memories will be. Chelsea, welcome to the show. We are so happy to have you here. Please feel free to add to that intro.
Chelsea Rosner:
Suzanne, thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here. Honestly, you nailed it. I mean, that's what it is. Literally, just helping women to learn how to take the stuff that's going on not only in our everyday lives, but in our past. And like the stuff that runs on repeat and loop up in our heads that would always make us feel like we're being left out or that being different is a bad thing or that we can't have certain things. Because of X, Y and Z and really just eliminating not only those stigmas in our surroundings and our inner circles, but also within our own space. Because when we can really, really embrace why we like the things we like and why we are the way we are, it really, truly allows us to raise our vibration and live in alignment, which is really what we're all after at the end of the day.
Suzanne Proksa:
Thank you, Chelsea. So, I'm curious to start, how did you get into this particular line of work?
Chelsea Rosner:
I'd like to say that it was natural evolution, given the gifts that I do have in terms of how clearly I can see gaps and help people to have these deep, AHA, clarifying moments. But a lot of it is just very full circle, my whole life experiences between really being able to see how to take something kind of less than ideal and not necessarily put a silver lining on it, which is what it used to just kind of feel like. But it felt so natural that when I really, really took the skills of my life and paired them with Life Coaching Certifications and Master Life Coaching Certifications, it really allowed me to see that it wasn't just me and my life and how I was wired and how I was doing what I was doing. But truly, it was a connection between our subconscious brain and the alignment that we want in our lives. And you have to be able to recognize both of those pictures in order to really fully embrace who you are and how you operate and recognizing that that was a choice and that that was a path that people could explore and become aware of. And that awareness led to just this true feeling of badassery was something that I could not ignore. I just had to continue down that road and explore it. And the more and more and more and more women that I have worked with that I talk to that come back, and they're like, chelsea, I don't know how you do what you do, how you see what you see how you help me understand this and help me get these results. The more this is a very clear next step in terms of growing a business.
Suzanne Proksa:
All right, Chelsea. Thank you for that. Let's face it. Women have a lot going on in their lives, so we really want to get down to the nitty gritty because we're all busy right now. When you're in that space of chaos, clarity can be difficult. What does chaos look like to you in the context of this conversation?
Chelsea Rosner:
Yeah. So when life is crazy, we're dealing with things that kind of give us into this tailspin mode of go, go, hustle, hustle, hustle. Like, I've got so much on my plate juggling all the things. A lot of the times society has told us that we need to seek balance, society has told us like meditate. Society has told us, oh, just say noticing. And none of that is bad advice. With the exception of that, it doesn't actually help us get to the root of handling that mental capacity, because as women, as entrepreneurs, as moms, as wives, sisters, spouses, friends, we carry an excessive mental load. Like, not only are we just wired differently than our male counterparts, but her brain is literally, literally wired to never stop. And so chaos feels different inside a woman's brain. And what's really amazing, though, is that so does clarity and so does alignment. So when we're in the middle of things, there's this space between knowing what to do and knowing how to do it. Really kind of like a gap between knowing how to do it and knowing how to execute it and knowing how to execute it and knowing how to actually feel good and want to do what you're supposed to do or what you know that you want to do. And then there's honestly a disconnect between when you do it and recognizing how good it made you feel and why you accomplished what you accomplished and truly piecing that bridge together. That's what someone like me is for. That's what working with a life coach can do. That is what really paying attention to thoughts that you have with yourself and how they make you feel, but also addressing them and learning things like asking yourself better questions and really being able to focus on the little tiny, quiet voice inside of you that really makes you feel good and calm and at peace with what's going on around you, rather than the really loud and obnoxious and kind of judgy one that lives up in our head.
Suzanne Proksa:
Thank you for giving us an idea of what that looks like so that we can dive into more questions. How can we gain more clarity into our lives despite having all of these things going on?
Chelsea Rosner:
So a lot of that is awareness. And I don't necessarily mean awareness in terms of, hi, my name is Chelsea. I have a lot of chaos. I'd like to talk about it, and yeah, you absolutely can go that route, and things like that. But we've got to start learning about the stories that are in our heads and why they create actions that we actually don't want. So when we tell ourselves something about a situation that's happened or about the chaos that we have in our lives, our mind searches for past examples of this. So, for example, if you heard that somebody said something mean about your kid or your spouse or your clothes and I'm just using this in a very broad example instantly your subconscious is searching for every other time in your life that not only has somebody said something bad about you, but that it's made you feel that anything in your life has made you feel the way that that specific example has made you feel. Your subconscious then takes all of those examples and mashes them into every other example of every other feeling that you've ever had around that particular instance. So then what does that create? One, you're now telling yourself something that may not even be necessarily true. Okay, so maybe they said this thing, but you're giving it meaning and emotion that they may not have necessarily given it. That's not really truly what's happening in the situation. It's what you're making it mean, and you're choosing to feel a certain type of way about something. It may not even be true. And when we feel those things and we think those things, which our subconscious really doesn't give us much of a choice at first, okay? But that creates more action steps that we don't want. It creates more tailspin. It creates more stress. It creates more disruption in our trying to go about our normal, everyday lives, let alone trying to elevate our everyday lives. And so, truly, when we're looking for more clarity, a huge component of it is learning how to differentiate between what our subconscious is telling us and what's actually happening around us. Because when we can see the difference and that's why having an open conversation with somebody about stuff like this goes a long way. Because it can help you see well beyond these limits that our own subconscious have. We then get a chance to say, actually, if this is what really happened, why is this okay? Why could this be a good thing?
Suzanne Proksa:
What does this give me?
Chelsea Rosner:
The potential to do with myself, life, feeling, the example that I can teach someone around me, and how good can that make me feel? And when we go down that road and we start to learn how to make these different associations than what our brain remembers as negative traumatic experiences, life gets good. Like, really, really good.
Suzanne Proksa:
Super helpful. What do you mean when you say, chaos is the new clarity?
Chelsea Rosner:
I truly mean just that the chaos that you have experienced is what shapes you. It's what's made you who you are. It's what's allowed you to experience what you've got to experience. It's what's gotten you the things in your life that you cherish that are your blessings, that you look around and you go, man, I love that. I loved that experience. I want to go back and do those kinds of things again. Or the goals and the dreams and the hopes that you have for the future and the potential that you know is living deep inside of you, those are all because of the things in your past, the things that you're dealing with right now. All of that is accumulation of what you've been able to make of your life thus far. And so by negating our chaos and just being like, I got to find balance, I got to seek balance. I got to find balance, we really, truly don't give enough power to our own physical selves and our own mental and emotional selves and how we have shaped who we are currently, because then that gives us the future potential and ability to see clearly and how we want to carry forward. So when I say chaos is the new clarity, I literally mean that all of your life's, chaos is what's creating this clear, bright, like, insanely, insanely, incredible future for you.
Suzanne Proksa:
Can you elaborate more on the concept of the black sheep that you talk about and how that ties into how we perceive chaos?
Chelsea Rosner:
Yeah. If I were to pull everyone who's listening to this, if I were to say, do you feel like a black sheep? Are you a black sheep? Have you ever felt like a black sheep? It would probably be 50 50. So about 50% would be like, yeah, that's totally me. That's it. Nailed it. And the other half would be like no, I don't really think so. I'm pretty modest. I've always kind of walked the straight and narrow. And here's the thing being a black.
Suzanne Proksa:
Sheep isn't what we think it is.
Chelsea Rosner:
We've kind of been ingrained whether by society, our parents, our upbringing, the people around us, that that's a negative thing. Just like our chaos, just like our crazy, just like our trauma. That's all negative. And when we think about it do you have your own style of clothes? Do you have your own paraging style? Do you have certain kinds of music that you like more so than others? Do you have weird food preferences? Are there places that you're just like I don't really want to travel there? All of the answers to all of those questions could potentially make you a black sheep depending on who you're talking about and who you're talking to. And it's not that you have to view yourself as a black sheep rather than you have to be able to embrace the fact that your differences are what make you who you are. That your differences are not. That your differences and what makes you tick and you operate are not the thing that you need to change and to conform in order to level up your life. Whether that's in business, whether that's in your marriage, whether that's in your parenting skills, your friendship circles, you do not need to change the things about yourself in order to elevate those circles. Not one single bit. Does that necessarily mean that you can just live your life all willynilly the same way and things will just drastically get better? Maybe not. It just depends. Everyone's life is a little bit different, everyone's scenario is a little bit different. And that's where this concept of really being a black sheep kind of goes by the wayside and people think, oh, I don't want to be the black sheep. Yeah you do. You really truly do.
Suzanne Proksa:
All right, so let's take that a step further then. How has this idea of being the black sheep and chaos shaped your own life? How did you leverage that?
Chelsea Rosner:
Leverage is such a strong word for me because I don't truly think that it was something that I realized was a power play move for me until much later than I wish I had. Growing up, I was always called the black sheep of our family. I was always considered somebody who did things their own way or who found a way to get things done, but in the very best ways. Taking extra college classes in high school and working jobs from age twelve, upright and choosing babysitting over partying and things like that was always just looked at as different and very much labeled being a black sheep. When, in my own mind, that was very far from how I truly felt like I was living, like I was doing what I felt like was moving me forward towards the things that I wanted and things that I didn't want, that I may or may not have been trying to escape in my own.
Suzanne Proksa:
Life at the time.
Chelsea Rosner:
And so for me, I really, truly think that it kind of came full circle when I started working in direct sales, online social, selling, whatever you want to call it. I never felt like I fit in. I never felt like other people's systems worked well for me. I never felt like these copy paste examples of how businesses run was for me. And I felt like because I didn't feel like I fit in, that that meant I couldn't be included. And realizing after having kids and doing things unconventionally as far as having a wedding, like my husband and I got married justice of the Peace style. Just us in the middle of nowhere and really loving every single second. Of that. And then with having children and really treating my kids with that same mentality of be you do you it's not weird. It's not different. And seeing how much they thrived on living in the moments of those experiences, not feeling ashamed for how they wanted to do things or live their lives, was really kind of this full circle when all of those pieces came together. And realizing that on paper, I was the same as everyone else. On paper, I had X, Y and Z in my businesses and rinks and accolades and all the things I had the two kids, boy, the girl, the great marriage, the house, the dogs, all the things. And none of that, on paper, met Jack. It really, truly didn't mean anything. It didn't show who I was. It didn't have the highs and lows that made me know that my life was mine and that I was building something that was going somewhere for me, for my family, for my kids that we can celebrate and be proud of every single day. And so to really kind of go back and say, what does being the black sheep really mean for me in my life? It means everything. It means living life on our own terms, on purpose. And that kind of next level alignment is what everyone is seeking. It's what, quote unquote, balance. It seems that conversation for another day, but it's truly what everyone is actually seeking, and it is the most peaceful, kick ass feeling in the entire world.
Suzanne Proksa:
Excellent. Wow. That is really inspiring. Thank you so much for being willing to share that. What tips, then do you have for listeners around using this mindset to their advantage going forward?
Chelsea Rosner:
All right, so my first tip would be no matter how different you feel, embrace that and run with that and truly let that be the reason why you succeed at doing the thing that you're doing, okay? Because you get to be you. You get to be the black sheep. You get to have the chaos and you get to have the clarity and the alignment and the success that come from embracing both of those things. Secondly would be if you are capable, hire a life coach, okay, have a conversation with one or just truly look into being a part of something that can elevate your life. Even listening to podcasts and things like this and really honing in and listening to other people's skill sets and picking up these little nuggets here and there is truly an incredible way to know that there are more things out there for you to digest and to process and to learn from and to never stop. Truly feeling like you have purpose and potential to fill is gold. Is gold. And then the last thing that I would say is that if you're chasing something in life, make sure that you're chasing it from the space of you, of your true alignment and your true purpose and your true potential because otherwise it's going to trying to get there. And I'm not saying you won't get there, but it won't be as fulfilling at the end as it should be and could be and as you want it to be. And it doesn't mean you have to change your goals. It doesn't mean you have to change your path. It doesn't mean you have to overhaul everything in your life. It just means you have to change the way that you're looking at things and why you're looking at them that way. So that you can truly, truly learn that everything you are doing and that you have done and that you are building, too, is not in spite of chaos, but it's because that chaos really, truly is the clarity that you're looking.
Suzanne Proksa:
Thank you, Chelsea. I love it when people give the.
Chelsea Rosner:
Tips, the sheer gold.
Suzanne Proksa:
That is what it's all about. So people always want to know how to get in touch with my guests. Can you share with people actually a couple of things, how they can reach out to you where they can find you, and then also any additional things that you want to make sure that they take note of from this episode.
Chelsea Rosner:
Okay. Gosh. Yes. So like most people, I'm connected in just about every which way to the internet these days. If you want to just follow along on Instagram, you're welcome to over there. My handle is Chelsea. And then also you could always take a look and get in touch with me via my website and that is badassesunite lifechelf. And then from there, honestly, what I would really love to offer to your listeners, Suzanne, is something really just genuinely as simple as a free clarity call. I mean, nothing more than 1520 minutes. But if you're somebody out there who's, like, gosh, this made so much sense to me. Or, there's this one thing that I've been harping on, and I just feel like if I can kind of let that go and really connect the dots between why I feel this way and how I can move forward or everything that we've just kind of talked about for these last little bit here has resonated with you. I'm more than happy to do that. Okay. I will carve out time in my schedule this month for you all. Please just let me know when you reach out to me that you were able to connect with me from the Suzanne show. That way, we can make sure that we love and dote on our wonderful, beautiful host here as well. And from there, I'm here. If you need to talk to someone, reach out, okay. Otherwise, this has been an incredible experience, and I genuinely appreciate the opportunity.
Suzanne Proksa:
Thank you so much for coming on, Chelsea. I'm sure this was super helpful for all the women out there who are just feeling like they're running ragged right again in that state of chaos. And so I am really grateful for your time, and I'm sure they are as well. I'm sure I will see you around again. So thank you. Thank you, thank you. See you soon, and have a wonderful rest of the day.
Chelsea Rosner:
You're so welcome. And thank you so much again. And, yes, we will be in touch. We will keep this conversation going for sure.
Speaker C:
I hope that you loved this episode. If you did, give me those shout outs, show me some love on itunes, give me a rating. And, hey, if you want to know where to find me, you can find me on pretty much all social media at Suzanneprokesa. That's Suzanneproksa. And you can also head over to my website, suzanprokesa.com.
Chelsea Rosner:
Until then, I'll see you in the next episode. And here's part day music for you.
