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017 | Overcoming Obstacles Fear and Accepting Change with Cheri Schultz

business fear mindset podcast thesuzanneshow Jan 01, 2023

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In another great reboot episode from Suzanne's beloved SuzPro Live, Motivational speaker, life coach, author and yoga instructor Cheri Schultz shares her experience of overcoming obstacles, fear and accepting change. She encourages listeners to stay positive, have patience and take action towards their goals. Tune in for inspiring stories and practical advice on how to achieve success!

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Summary: 

At the start of the discussion, Cheri Schultz shares her own experience of being sued for over $4 million in 2007 due to fraudulent mortgages that were processed through her title company which led her into a dark place of fear and anxiety until she chose to stay positive and have an attitude of gratitude.

Cheri emphasizes that it is not enough to simply talk about what you want to do but rather you must take action and commit to doing something every day despite any rejections or failures you may face.

This podcast conversation focuses on the importance of believing in oneself and having the courage and commitment to achieve success through taking small steps every day.

Cheri highlights that Suzanne is a great example of someone who has achieved success while working full time and managing fibromyalgia.

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Welcome to another episode of The Suzanne Show, where I talk a little online business, human resources, personal development, chronic illness, and whatever else I decide to chat about. I am so excited that you are here and I love to hear from my listeners. Please feel free to reach out to me on my website, suzanneproxa.com, or on all the socials where I'm also Suzanne Proxa.

And don't forget to put that K before the S. Let's move on with the episode. I can't wait for you guys to dive in. Hey beautiful human, just a quick note that the episode that you are about to listen to is from my former show, Suze Pro Live, but it is so good that I just wanted to make sure that it was still being shared. So enjoy.

I am very excited to be here today with Sherry Schultz. I said it. I said it right without getting tongue twisted. Absolutely amazing. She is a motivational speaker, life coach, author, and she is an authority on creating solutions. She's also just FYI speaking in my summit next week. So if you cannot get enough of her, you can see her again.

Sherry, I'm actually going to let you do your bigger introduction because you're obviously going to do much better than I can.

Oh, well thank you, Suzanne. I appreciate you having me here this evening. I have so much gratitude in my heart. I'm also a yoga instructor, so I believe that everything happens for a reason.

Yes, thank you for the introduction, but yeah, I'm a motivational speaker. I'm a life coach, and I hope people overcome that fear, remove those obstacles that are obstructing their path or preventing them from moving forward.

Yes, I am an author, but really it's all about motivating, inspiring, and encouraging the individuals.

Because you know what?

We all have the power, but for some reason we let that fear paralyze us, you know?

And then it stops us in our grip. We have to remember we have all the power here and here, but you have to believe that you do.

You see, we all have the power to transform our story. But it's up to you to decide. And that's what I do.

I motivate and inspire and encourage them to have faith, hope, commitment, right?

Take action, believe in themselves. And that's what it's about.

Yes, so that's what I do now for a living. I speak and I cope. Sounds super fun.

Yeah, my favorite things. We were actually talking before we got on camera, my audience and all of the discussions around fear and how people get stuck in their tracks and think that they're not good enough and that kind of thing. And the actual title of today's presentation is Overcoming Obstacles, Fear, and Accepting Change. And I think it's absolutely perfect with what I've been seeing online lately. And it's absolutely heartbreaking.

I'm sure Sheri will agree. When you see all of these talented women out there with so many gifts and they get stalled because of these stories and patterns and people in their lives telling them they're not good enough and just all of this junk that they bring with us.

And so I don't know, what do you see the most Sheri when it comes to that kind of thing?

What stalls women the most?

Yeah, Susan, that's so true. We were speaking about it and I spoke to a couple clients just a few days ago. And their biggest two issues that I constantly hear over and over is like, I'm not good enough. I don't have the skills. I don't know if this is going to work.

Maybe if I fail, maybe what if you succeed?

But it's that fear that paralyzes them. I know I couldn't possibly do this, but I'm here to tell you, you are more than capable.

You know, you don't have to have the skills, sir. What I tell them is you have to step outside of your comfort zone.

Yes, it's going to be scary.

Yes, it's going to bring some discomfort. But when you step outside and you get on the other side of telling you, it will be easy. Then if it can't be the first time, I'll agree with you. Okay.

Because, you know, we got the jitters and we're scaring each.

What if we fail?

Okay, what if you succeed?

I tell them also, get this, you can either think positive about a situation or you can think negative.

Do you know that it takes the same amount of energy to think positive than it is to think negative?

But for some reason, when we're going through the storm, right, as I call it the storm, the thunderstorm, the thunder, and here comes the tornado, right, we forget all about it because we like to tune in. We have two channels. I look at it as a TV almost. We can tune into this channel over here, self-empowering, self-motivation, or some of us turning and tune into this channel of self-defeating. Woe is me.

Why does everything seem to happen to me?

You see, it's not necessarily what happens to you, but how is it that you're responding when you're going through the storm?

Right?

We have to stay upbeat. We have to stay positive because we always think, oh, my dad's what could go wrong.

I tell, think about everything that can go wrong.

And that's how I motivate them, right?

And then we all get this mindset that we're not, we don't have the skillset. And I tell them, have all the power. It's right here and right here, but you have to believe that you do. Believe that you have the power to transform your story because you can, because you decide, you create, and you craft your own future.

But it takes patience, hope, faith, perseverance, right?

Because we're all going to hit those mountains.

But what are we going to do when we go over the mountain?

I guarantee you're going to get there.

But the thing is, we want it yesterday, right?

We want it next week. There's not a timetable. We have to let God and the universe decide when it comes and it's done. And we reach that pinnacle, but so many people give up before they reach their peak. And I want you to say, just stick with it. You're almost there. Keep pushing. But I know we get frustrated because we're human. We want instant results.

It is what it is, right?

Yeah, keep pressing forward because you have everything.

Right?

And people tell you you're not good enough or you know, the thing is people like to take control of people.

Oh, do it this way. Do it that way. But we don't know their story. And as I say, they can't pass judgment on you because you know, they're famous saying you're judged and then you be judged. You don't know what their story is. Brainstorm with them. Help them figure it out. But don't try to control the situation. Don't let those people convince you that you are not good enough because you are.

You have it all. You were born with it. We just got it. I'm doing it out of you because it just sitting standing it right now. I know I can go on and on.

I'm sorry, Susan.

No, I'm going to stand. I'm supposed to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand.

Yes, it is.

Yeah, yeah. Getting an outcome.

Yeah, I am too. Sorry. I think I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand. I'm going to stand.

Yeah, go ahead. I think it's stop.

Yeah, it did.

I mean, definitely some very good points.

You know, we, I swear we're our own worst critics sometimes. And I know you run into that all the time. And you know, the whole we're I'm not good enough thing.

You know, a lot of times we're conditioned. There's somebody that we've had in our lives that have led us to feel that way.

You know, it's definitely a hurdle that I've been through. And I think also, I love what you said about, you know, keep, you have to keep trying and keep going and have some patience, all of us, especially, you know, if we're in business or, you know, even in life, this certainly applies.

Um, once you get a taste of that, there's, there's a amount of success there. It's huge. It really lights you up. And I think that, you know, me, for instance, if I would have given up several months ago, oh my goodness, you know, what a, what a waste. And so anytime I see somebody who looks like they're on the edge of giving up. Yeah.

I'm like, no, no, no, you know, let's tap into your, your absolute strengths. Right. I'm sure you did the same, you know, and let's focus on that to get you moving forward a little bit faster. So you at least have a taste of that.

Cause it's, it's, oh, what's the word for it?

Elating?

That's not the right word.

Well, you know, I always say it like, it like, it ignites your lives, right?

It makes your heart feel happy. It puts a smile on your heart.

You know, it motivates you to keep moving forward when you have those little victories, right?

And I tell a lot of my clients, right?

We've all had victories in our life, but when we're going through the store, we cannot remember one single victory, right?

We're just looking at like, whoa, it's me. We get depressed and I always tell my clients, just close your eyes for a couple moments, remember the emotions when you got through it, okay. Bring those emotions to the here and now because that's what's going to motivate you, going to get you making those sound decisions because sometimes we get real clouded when we're going through the storm and we can't think straight.

But if we remember that we went through those victories, bring them here, remember, I got through that and I'm going to get through this one again. Right.

It's those obstacles, but I always look at them and I, and I, this is another thing I kind of explained to them when you're going through that obstacle, right?

And let's say something doesn't work out in your timing or the way you've planned it out. It's okay because we're going to learn from that. I always look at, because I did, I had a real big failure in my life and I don't look at it as a failure anymore and look at that lessons learned because I've gained so much wisdom, so much knowledge going through those two years.

And now I'm on the other side and yeah, I won't do that again. And hopefully I've gained enough knowledge that now I'll, I won't feel depressed. I won't get scared.

I won't get paralyzed because I know I got through it and there is nothing you can't get through, right?

But she got to step and I would say step outside, right?

Do that thing that makes you uncomfortable.

That's, you know, brings up that, oh, you know, I don't know if I can do that.

Yes, you just have to do it. It's going to be scary, but get through it. And every time after that second, third, fourth, it's going to be a breeze.

You know, that's what I tell them, but you've got to get through it, you know?

And then there's the other thing, and this is kind of interesting because we're all entrepreneurs, right?

A lot of us here, and we always say, you know, and, and this is real interesting, you know?

And she said, well, Shiri, I'm not making the money that I want to. And I says, okay, well, let's say, let's dig down.

And they said, what insects that you're doing every day?

Well, you know, she says, I'm doing this or doing that.

I said, I'm an entrepreneur. You got to think, feel every emotion. It has to be who you are. So if you put in a little effort, then you get a little income. If you put in a big effort, you'll get big income.

And, you know, I had to change your mindset that she has to live and breathe. When you're an entrepreneur, you're in total control of the money that comes through.

So, I mean, it's going to take time. I'm not going to say it's going to happen overnight, but you have to have a plan. You have to have a goal. You thought I had a to-do list. I'm big on to-do lists. I'm sorry.

But because we get to sidetracked during the day, right?

Snapchat and YouTube and Facebook.

It's like, write your to-do list. I don't care if you have to write the same list for a week. When I'm telling you, you look at it in front of it and you're like, no, I got to do that.

Because sometimes we go through the day and we wonder, what did we accomplish?

Right?

Because we're getting sidetracked in so many different directions. I tell all my millennials, all my clients, write your to-do list because you're going to be surprised what you can accomplish when you see it on black and white. Yes. Yes. And I'm one of those people that has to cross it off. As I go. You feel accomplished. Yes. But that's so important.

You are so right, Suzanne, because when you cross it out, you feel that sense of accomplishment. And you're like, yes, I got it. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. And there's nothing wrong with that because some of us tend to have that type A personality.

Right?

Check it out. Yes. So you were talking about challenges.

Oh, yes. And one of the things that we talked about was you went through one hack of a challenge, one hack of a hardship and an obstacle of being sued for over $4 million. Oh. So talk to us about that.

What happened there?

How did that come about?

And how in the world did you get yourself over a hump that massive?

Yes. Yes. That's very true.

Well, I'd have to just backtrack a little bit back to 2007 and I was very, very fortunate. I started many entities because I lost my job is really what happened.

And so, you know, I was in that real estate industry and I owned my own title company and I had 15 employees, a commercial building, you know, everything seemed to be going fine. And then I got hit. I was sitting at my desk one day and I heard my Navy and called it the reception desk.

Well, as it turned out, within about 45 days, I was hit with a lump in my neck. I was hit with a lawsuit every single week.

And what happened in 2007?

I didn't understand all the fraud that was occurring in the real estate industry. People were recording fraudulent dates and fraudulent mortgages. And as my responsibility as a title company, I had to retrieve those documents from the registered deeds. And then I closed transactions on them and they were fraudulent. So that's where the lawsuits came in.

And of course, I had to hire an attorney and my attorney bills were running in excess of five to $10,000 a month. And it takes out a loan. I didn't have that kind of money. I had invested every dime into this title company. I was just keeping my nose above water, paying the bills, paying my employees. I had no dime. I had nothing extra because I knew it would come in due time.

And then we all know what happened, right?

And so the stress, the anxiety, the fear, oh my gosh, right?

It was bad because I didn't know. I thought I'd lose everything I owned because I didn't have that kind of money. And then of course we had the 2008 real estate crash, the worst one in US history. Homes were foreclosing.

People were losing their houses, right?

I mean, we all know people that were involved. And then right when that happened, my top three clients called me and told me they're closing their doors.

I said, you can't be closing your doors.

That's how I made my revenue, right?

I got orders that closed transactions.

They said, well, you know, nobody's purchasing, selling or refinancing a house.

So now the stress was really bad, right?

I mean, stress, fear, anxiety got so bad that I couldn't eat anymore. I couldn't sleep and I lost an astronomical amount of weight, you know, but I did get on the other side. Okay. And it took so two long years. I was going through this day in and day out. I get people on the phone calling me saying, Sherry saved my house.

I mean, these were adult people and I was like, there was nothing I could do, you know?

But then I realized when you have fear, when you're depressed, when you have that anxiety, you have to face your fears instead of avoiding them. Because when you face them, it decreases that power, that fear over you. And that's what I did. I got up every morning and I went to the office.

Was that the hardest thing I ever did?

I can't because I didn't know what my, where my life was going. Not the next minute, the next day, the next hour, the next month, because it was changing continuously. And then one day there was this turning point and this is where it started to shift. I remember looking outside and I seen my vehicle out there and I thought, you know, I have a lot to be grateful for.

I had had a warm house I go back to.

I had food in my belly, right?

I have a car that drove me. I got gas in my car. And that's when the ship started to occur. And I thought, I have a choice. I can choose to stay positive or I could choose to stay in that dark funnel because it was a dark funnel. And I chose to stay on the upswing, stay on that positive side.

And then I realized you can have an attitude of gratitude because you can't, you can't think both at the same time.

It's oxymoron, right?

You either think positive or you think negative. And then I realized life is really a series of magical miracles. But it's up to you and it's up to me to find my way. It's up to you and it's up to me to find those. And you know, those miracles are all around us.

But when we go through the storm, forget about it all, right?

It's that beautiful smile from a complete stranger, right?

It's that encouraging word we heard right when we needed it.

Or that warm hug, right?

From your significant others. Those are not coincidence. Those were supposed to happen. And those are our magical miracles. And when you have to face your fear, you have to do everything. You have to step outside. You have to do something that's so uncomfortable for you that it takes the core of your being to do it. But I did that every single day. I've faced my fears. I went into work.

Yes, some days it was a real challenge. And I will not deny that.

You know, I'm sure I cried enough tears to fill a river.

You know, I prayed enough prayers, right?

But it was finally answered. But it took two years because it could be very easy to put my head over the covers and stay there forever.

You know, because I'm like, just take me away in the jaw suit, you know, because I can't get through this. I didn't know how to pay $4 million. But you know, I have to tell you, when it was all said and done, you know, I got to my attorney because this stuff really got to me really bad one day.

And I said, you know, I went to him and I said, you got to figure something out because I can't go on another day, another minute. Look at me. I'm like down to fricking 90 pounds, you know, and five eight.

I can't, I can't go like this. And so he says, okay. So anyways, I didn't have to pay a dime. I did not have to pay a dime of my $4 million. I never gave up. I kept pushing forward, persevering, just knew my day was coming. But every day I didn't know. I know you're still weak and you wait and you wait and you're like, okay, I'm at the end of my room.

I really am. And he negotiated, but I had to close down my company in 30 days and I could never open up another title company for 10 years. Not that I wanted to. I was done, you know, I guess I'm not going back in the real estate industry. So that's when I realized I got through it.

I mean, it wasn't easy.

And so now I motivate people, right?

You can get through it. You have the thing that's going to get you through this to face fears. That's what I talk about. You have got to base on don't bury yourself. Don't pretend that it's going to happen by magic and all your worries, your issues, you know, are all going to go away because they're not. You have to take action. Number one, you have to believe in yourself.

Number two, and then you have to have the courage and the commitment to keep pressing forward in spite of the mountains and the obstacles that are in your path. So that's why I call it the ABCs, you know, but you got to do the ABC. Okay. I can talk and flat my gums, you know, but you do it, take action, believe, encourage and commitment.

So I say it is as easy as ABC, but if you're not taking action and you're not doing one thing every day, then you can't complain about where you are, you know, and I know I can be very upfront and blunt with my clients, but you got to do something, you know, that's not going to happen by magic, you know, and it's uncomfortable and it's scary, but do it anyways, as I tell them, you know, so yeah, but I got on the other side.

And so that's why I speak and I like coached. I am over the height. You're going to get there. You got the power. Absolutely. So you're two of my questions.

Oh, okay.

Oh, that's fantastic.

So, you know, you talked about taking action and this is something that I am, I'm big on action takers, right?

I love them. I embrace that. And so it just drives me crazy when I see like, I oftentimes put things out there, you know, on a silver platter for people might be free, might be low cost, whatever that could really help them lock their business and they don't, you can tell, you know, we all know you can follow, you know, you can follow your stats and pages and see who's been there.

We all know this and you can see they've been there and they don't take that simple step of applying or whatever it is, you know, do you have any advice for, and I know you already talked about a lot of this, but do you have any advice for ladies who continually find themselves in that place where they take that little first step, but then they just cannot make themselves go any further?

Yeah, you know, I call it two things.

I call it procrastination, right?

And why do we procrastinate or why do we stop before we get to the finish line?

Because it's that resistance, that fear.

You know, I always say do something, even if it's a small, small step, because if you do little small action steps every day, it adds up to something in a whole year and you're going to be amazed at what you can accomplish. Action step, let me give you some action step.

It's sending that email, right?

Reaching out, making that phone call to that person that you feel uncomfortable. Think about it. You're on the other side of the phone. It's okay.

And so what if they hang the phone on you?

Pick the phone up again and dial that next number or send out that next email, right?

It's about doing that, talking to somebody, knocking on the doors, you know, whatever your business is, you have got to be the person, the entrepreneur to go out and get it. And if you've never done a book tour, that's okay. I remember when I started my business, I called it code call.

And someone said, what are you talking about a code call?

I said, I got to call customers. It's called cold, C-O-L-D. And I'm like, oh my gosh. And you can't even imagine how many people hung the phone up on me. And I use that as an example because it's like, oh, got it. They should feel really bad. You're like, I don't want to pick up the phone.

Yes, pick it back up. Because I always said, you just haven't found the person yet who made your product, you know, your service. They're out there. But as I say, and I've seen it because I've owned four entities, it's a numbers game. Okay. You have to reach so many people to get the people to respond to you. So that means you have to do something every day. Take that step.

Get rid of that fear. Get that negative language out of there.

You know, no, I'm not sure. I don't have the steel center. Forget about it. Forget about it. Just take action. I don't care how many people hung the phone up on me. You pick up the phone and you do it again. And you send that next email or you get those people say, get me out of here. Get me off your list.

Okay, that's all right. Get them off your list on the next one. That's what I've done. And it works. I'm telling you, it works. Okay. I have four entities to prove it works. Okay. So you just have to make that effort, you know, because sitting around waiting, I'm telling you and I tell all my clients that it's not going to happen. Right. And that's the only way you're going to get.

But you have to believe, believe that you can achieve up here. That's what it's about. You have the power. You don't need any special skills set. We don't need to go back to college because it resides right here in here. Okay. But it's about believing and have them that courage, that commit. That's what it's about.

You know, having that faith, that hope and it's the patience because we don't know when it's going to happen. Don't give up.

Don't let anybody convince you, right?

That you're not good enough or you can't achieve it because you have to believe in yourself first. And then let go of the naysayers because you're going to hear lots of them.

I guarantee you don't need pressing forward, right?

You know, Suzanne, I'm sure of it. Absolutely. Yes.

I mean, you never know when that breaks going to be, you know, I've heard so many of the six and seven figure coaches talk about, you know, they were so broke. They didn't know how they were going to pay their bills, their utilities.

You know, they were making 14 grand a year and they're borrowing from their parents or whatever.

You know, in adulthood. And I mean, now, you know, they're like six, seven figures and a lot of them have done it within two years. I know. I get all. And if you want, like I watched Melissa far quite a bit, not as much as I used to, but she was my she was my coach for a bit. And she did it because she never gave up.

She was aggressively online, doing lines, doing challenges, doing stuff. Every single day. And it's funny because before we got on here, Sherry asked me how I do it because I work full time. And then I'm also doing all these things, organizing the summit, trying to get on live as much as possible, et cetera.

And it really is, you know, one of the best tips she gave just a second ago, you guys is baby steps. If you have to tiny steps. And that's what I do every day.

You know, it might look like I'm doing a bunch of stuff at once. I am not. And believe me, I have just as much fear as anybody else. And I still, it's a push. You've got to get behind yourself and push and she's not in your hot to get suits. It's absolutely right. You have to be, nobody else is going to push you. Nobody else is going to do it.

So, you know, every day I've got to push myself and, and even to do those little steps. So it works. It works. It really works. It does. You are so right. You are so right.

And Susan, we're talking and I'm like, Tony, you're doing work all day. And then we, we talked and you messaged me at 5 30 this morning. And now Chris, I'm up, you know, responding. And now we're here all night. It's just like, that's what it takes.

You know?

And I know a lot of people say, well, I don't know. I'm not quite sure. It does. That's what it takes. And you are so right about Melissa. I love listening to her. She is dynamite. She is absolutely dynamite. Yeah.

And like you say, she never gave up, right?

She kept pushing forward. She talks about it. It's her fear, you know, doing those Facebook lives and never giving up. And that's what it's about to anybody who's listening here. It's about never giving out, never losing sight of your dreams or your goals.

And, and right.

You know, Suzanne said she does something every day, every day, just the little small steps.

Right, Susan. And look where she's saying, guys, she worked hard. She does this at night.

What makes you think you can't do it?

You've got a perfect example right here. Let her be your mentor. Let her be the example for you guys.

I mean, really. She offers those courses, those free courses. And she jumps a charge a lot for him. Take her up on it. It's well worth it. Okay. She's going to motivate you. Keep you pressing forward.

You want that entrepreneur?

Come on. It's a small investment. Go for it. Suzanne is wonderful at what she does.

She, she's telling you she's working full time and doing this.

What makes you think you can't do it?

Why?

My gosh. It's not like it's a huge investment, guys. It's well worth it. You will not be disappointed. I guarantee. Look where so far she's come. She has wisdom and knowledge how she's reached this point. My gosh. Make that small investment. Suzanne is for you every day. My gosh. Exactly.

Suzanne, you're a perfect example. Thank you.

Well, yeah, if you add to that, I've got fibromyalgia.

Get it?

Yeah, I have fibromyalgia too. So I'm more tired than the next guy.

Unless you have that pain that kind of comes and goes, don't you?

Mine's more the fatigue and everything. I get wiped out. The pain I've got under control. I don't care what anybody says. I do the diet exercise thing. It keeps it under control.

What is that?

You know, resting. Because I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. Same thing. Diet is healing. Yes.

Yes, you see, and they wanted to put me on that chemotherapy and that prednisone, but it's outdone it.

Right?

And I don't eat meat, sugar, dairy, bread, oil, but I got the pain under control. So see you guys. This is a perfect example.

Again, Suzanne works full time, does this, and she has fibromyalgia.

What makes you guys think that you can't do it?

Right?

And she's controlling it with her diet. It's a choice and we're all free to choose.

Right?

And we don't have to wait until tomorrow. We can choose right here today how we're going to pursue our fitness goals. And Susan is absolutely, you know, a great mentor. And she's a great illustration of how far she's come. And we know she's not stopped. We know where she's going.

Oh, yeah.

I'm not, not after I've gotten this far, I'm not even glad. Yeah. And just ask, just ask anybody that knows me.

Aren't you stubborn, the ques?

That's good. And that's, that's that mindset you have to have.

You know, you have it, Susan. That's why you've gotten so far. How far you've come, you've got to be stubborn. You got to stand in firmness, as I call it, that warrior stance. You know that you are not the victim, but the victor. That's what it's about. Absolutely.

So, Siri, are getting, we've actually been on a half hour already.

Where is the truck?

No, oh my gosh. That's why. But here's the deal. People are going to want to know how to get in touch with you, how they can work with you, how they can get you to speak, you know, in their groups and all of that. So tell them all the stuff. Tell them where to find you. Okay.

Yes, I have, I have my website, which is shirrieschultz.com.

It's spelled C-H-E-R-I, right?

And then Schultz, S-T-H-U-L-T-Z. I also have another Facebook group. It's called Sherry Schultz Life Coach.

Right, and I post there and really on my website, you can contact me. There's places to contact, to hire me, and you can just instant message me.

You know, anyway, I'd be more than happy. I always give 30 minutes of free consultation.

Always, you know, because I just really let me get through that hurdle, whatever it is. And I give it free to everybody. And I also have a free package right on my website. And it's the Masterclass Video Series.

And really, you know what my free videos are about?

Taking action, overcoming fear, and commitment and courage.

How big is that, right?

So yeah, reach out to me at any given moment. I'd be more than happy. You can always, right, instant message me, email me. My email's right on my website. So I'll receive any type of notification. And I appreciate you, Susan, having me, you know, this evening. Absolutely. I'm very grateful that you've took the time out of your busy schedule, you know, so we could chat this evening.

Susan B Thank you so much. Susan B Thank you. Susan B I'm sure that everybody loved it. I'm very happy to have you here and much love to you, Sheri. Sheri B Same to you. Susan B Awesome. Sheri B Have a wonderful, wonderful evening.

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